Quid ergo attinet gloriose loqui, nisi constanter loquare? Respondent extrema primis, media utrisque, omnia omnibus. Ergo hoc quidem apparet, nos ad agendum esse natos. Atque haec coniunctio confusioque virtutum tamen a philosophis ratione quadam distinguitur. Nam quibus rebus efficiuntur voluptates, eae non sunt in potestate sapientis. Tum Quintus: Est plane, Piso, ut dicis, inquit.

Nunc omni virtuti vitium contrario nomine opponitur. Miserum hominem! Si dolor summum malum est, dici aliter non potest. Quis est, qui non oderit libidinosam, protervam adolescentiam? Audeo dicere, inquit. Ita graviter et severe voluptatem secrevit a bono. Intellegi quidem, ut propter aliam quampiam rem, verbi gratia propter voluptatem, nos amemus; Collige omnia, quae soletis: Praesidium amicorum. Sed non sunt in eo genere tantae commoditates corporis tamque productae temporibus tamque multae. Ratio enim nostra consentit, pugnat oratio. Quae cum magnifice primo dici viderentur, considerata minus probabantur. Quis est, qui non oderit libidinosam, protervam adolescentiam? Est enim effectrix multarum et magnarum voluptatum.

Ut in geometria, prima si dederis, danda sunt omnia. Vide, ne etiam menses! nisi forte eum dicis, qui, simul atque arripuit, interficit. Sic, et quidem diligentius saepiusque ista loquemur inter nos agemusque communiter. Bonum valitudo: miser morbus. Ex rebus enim timiditas, non ex vocabulis nascitur. Hic, qui utrumque probat, ambobus debuit uti, sicut facit re, neque tamen dividit verbis. Primum quid tu dicis breve? Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Ergo adhuc, quantum equidem intellego, causa non videtur fuisse mutandi nominis. Sed tempus est, si videtur, et recta quidem ad me.

Est autem a te semper dictum nec gaudere quemquam nisi propter corpus nec dolere. Quia, si mala sunt, is, qui erit in iis, beatus non erit. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Quid igitur, inquit, eos responsuros putas? Non quam nostram quidem, inquit

Pomponius iocans; Virtutis, magnitudinis animi, patientiae, fortitudinis fomentis dolor mitigari solet. Sed tempus est, si videtur, et recta quidem ad me. Cur haec eadem Democritus? Quaerimus enim finem bonorum. Ergo, si semel tristior effectus est, hilara vita amissa est? Hoc non est positum in nostra actione.

Haec quo modo conveniant, non sane intellego. Nihil ad rem! Ne sit sane; Aliud igitur esse censet gaudere, aliud non dolere. Apud ceteros autem philosophos, qui quaesivit aliquid, tacet; Te ipsum, dignissimum maioribus tuis, voluptasne induxit, ut adolescentulus eriperes P. Sed residamus, inquit, si placet.

Quid enim tanto opus est instrumento in optimis artibus comparandis? Venit enim mihi Platonis in mentem, quem accepimus primum hic disputare solitum; Quae in controversiam veniunt, de iis, si placet, disseramus. Sed emolumenta communia esse dicuntur, recte autem facta et peccata non habentur communia. Quantam rem agas, ut Circeis qui habitet totum hunc mundum suum municipium esse existimet? Sint ista Graecorum; Id enim natura desiderat. An hoc usque quaque, aliter in vita?

Torquatus, is qui consul cum Cn. Dic in quovis conventu te omnia facere, ne doleas. Nam adhuc, meo fortasse vitio, quid ego quaeram non perspicis. Quis est, qui non oderit libidinosam, protervam adolescentiam? Res enim concurrent contrariae.

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